[Members] Civil Disobedience

Johannes Wagener johannes.wagener at gmx.net
Wed Aug 24 12:35:44 CDT 2005


I am not of the opinion too give google too much time.

I think we have to act politically and write exactly this letter now. In 
addition to that I expect that google already awaits some kind of 
reaction from us - and in fact, we have the position, the right and the 
obligation to react! I am sure, they already have their plans fix and 
that we probably wont surprise them with such a letter, too.

With thinking politically I mean that we should tell them - also in the 
public - what we expect jabber to be. We should do this now because this 
is probably the best time te get good press. If we wait too long people 
will get used to current conditions and nobody will take notice from our 

Johannes Wagener

Nolan Eakins wrote:

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> Continuing my life long pursuit of civil disobedience along with a
> suggestion made on my blog about PetitionOnline.com, I put together the
> following two paragraphs to be used on a petition:
> - -- Begin --
> Dear Google,
> With the launch of Google Talk we applaud your use of XMPP/Jabber, but
> there's one thing you got wrong: the entire spirit of Jabber was to be
> completely federated. Google Talk is not federated! By not enabling
> server-to-server connections Google Talk is not in the spirit of Jabber.
> It is effectively an island just like AOL, Yahoo, and Microsoft's
> instant messaging services.
> By riding on the backs of the Jabber community with Google Talk, we the
> community deserve to see our protocol used the way it was designed--by
> being openly federated. This is our plea, our demand to have the
> server-to-server switch flipped so every other Jabber user can talk to
> their friends and colleagues on Google Talk.
> - -- End --
> I stopped when I came to their community URL. Anyone have any qualms
> about making this an official JSF petition to Google?
> - - Nolan
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