[Members] Jabber Software Map

Ulrich Staudinger us at activestocks.de
Fri Dec 2 09:15:17 CST 2005


On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 02:49:27PM -0000, Richard Dobson wrote:
> If you want something short term rather than working on a proper jabber 
> based solution then I would suggest you have Jabber Software Map running 
> off of its own user database, I very much doubt you will be able to 
> convince enough people for you to be able to use the authreg db, and this 
> HTTP stuff is IMO simply silly and a non starter as the only reason you 
> want to do it that way is because you want something short term.

Well, if we speak of two to three years as short term, then yes, it is
short term, at least it works and i want a working solution rather now
than in two-three years. Anyway, it's not my head that counts. I just
see that the JSF's mission status simply is becoming emphasized more and
more on protocols and that we are forgetting the developers. 

"We showcase the work of such developers, whether they be open-source or
commercial. We document our protocols in a clear, accessible fashion,
and we show developers how our protocols can solve problems and help
them innovate. But we do not market ready-made solutions to
organizations or individuals: that is the job of the developers we
serve." - http://www.jabber.org/jsf/

We are a software foundation and we must by our mission goals enable
developers to showcase their stuff. Of course that's put hard.
Showcasing it now is better than showcasing something in two-three
years. And a software map (be it the one we are discussing right now or
not) is a perfect start for building a different leg, a more developer
oriented web site. Couldn't we showcase developer's work better than now
? Can't we provide better news ? Can't we provide more interviews ?
Can't we simply build a small team with editors that do interviews all
two months with Open Source developers of the jabber domain ? Is there
no use for presenting cool OS Jabber deployments ? Where is this ? We
had interviews 3 years ago, but after 10 or 12 interviews the interviews
were suddenly gone. I say we must make a start and not wait for another
two-three years just to get something perfectly standardized. We can
standardize a proper auth-checking mechanism, i know the JSF can do
this, but what is it good for now, when the first jabber server
implementation will be ready months later and we will have to switch our
jabber server implementation before we can use it ? 


Returning to the technical argument, a http facade with read-only access to the db 
is propably safer than enhancing a full fledged server with an http interface. 



Cheers,
Ulrich



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