lucas at lucas-nussbaum.net
Sun Aug 20 12:55:21 CDT 2006
On 17/08/06 at 11:50 -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> I think it may be time to change our protocol branding to XMPP.
> I realize this may seem radical. In 2004 we had a big debate about this
> and it almost split the community apart. And at that time I opposed any
> such change. But times change and people change their minds too. Here is
> my reasoning:
> 1. In 2004 we were paranoid about using "XMPP" because we didn't want to
> scare the IETF. But I think we would be OK if we clearly label the
> protocols that we define as "XMPP Extensions" rather than as changes to
> XMPP itself (which is still all and only what is defined in the RFCs).
> See the "Relation to XMPP" note in any Standards Track JEP for details.
> 2. Now "XMPP" is much better known. "Jabber" is still better known, but
> in the protocol space "XMPP" is now quite common.
My main concern about JEPs is that most of them are already too
"XMPP-ish". They are written by protocol geeks, and sometimes, it seems
that they are only written because it's fun to write protocols. Most of
them are never implemented in clients.
I fear that switching from JEP to XEP will push the JSF work even
further from the real life, that is, people using Jabber clients to chat
with friends/colleagues. (Ok, XMPP is not only used for that, but this
use(r)-base should not be forgotten).
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