[Members] Re: [jadmin] XMPPD vs JabberD as a name

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at jabber.org
Mon Nov 20 12:14:31 CST 2006

Chris Mullins wrote:
> Matthias Wimmer [m at tthias.eu] Wrote:
>> Versions following on "1.6.0" will be released as "xmppd".
> This is actually something I would very much prefer not to see. We're
> just now getting a protocol that's free of name-related baggage and
> history, and I would really love to see it remain that way.
> As soon as "xmppd" comes out, we're back to having a term ("xmpp")
> that has name pollution associated with it. I would, if anything,
> like to see the XMPP Standard Foundation actively disapprove of brand
> dilution such as this.

XMPP is not a trademarked term. The JSF (probably soon to be the XMPP
Standards Foundation) has no plans to trademark the term (and I don't
even know that we could, given the publication of the core specs by the
IETF). Thus anyone could use it as proposed.

That said, I think it's better to come up with creative names for
software products (whether open source or commercial). Things like
jabberd and xmppd are pretty boring. :-) However, jabberd was itself
renamed from "Jabber", which was a pretty cool name when Jer came up
with it in late 1998 / early 1999.

[insert long history of the "JABBER" name here]

> Why should the product that used to be JabberD get to use this name?
> I vote nobody gets to name their product this - that way we eliminate
> all the issues.

I don't think it's up for a vote. But I think that having a discussion
about it is a good idea.

> Also, we don't see: Httpd anywhere as a product name. We see Apache. 
> We don't see smptd anywhere as a product name, we see SendMail. We
> don't see "httpb" anywhere, we see Mozilla, Firefox, Netscape, Opera,
> etc.

Agreed -- I think more creative names are more more memorable and less
subject to confusion.


Peter Saint-Andre
Jabber Software Foundation

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