[Members] Memberbot

Matt Tucker matt at jivesoftware.com
Tue Sep 12 02:01:58 CDT 2006


Good points, but we're also a fairly smart group. Hopefully we all got
it right the first time or pinged PSA to reset our votes. I for one
voted for Remko. :)

Like you and Chris, I think a web-based voting system would be just


> -----Original Message-----
> From: members-bounces at jabber.org 
> [mailto:members-bounces at jabber.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Smith
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 11:55 PM
> To: JSF members discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Members] Memberbot
> On 12 Sep 2006, at 00:16, Chris Mullins wrote:
> >>> Existing software is the way to go...
> >
> >> I think the question of allowing the voting over XMPP is a 
> large part 
> >> of the voting process.
> >
> > Sure, from a protocol purists point of view, it would be 
> nice - but I 
> > would much rather see our effort directed toward other things.
> > Building
> > a vote-taking bot is only useful 4 times per yet. Many 
> other project 
> > the JSF considers are, I think, considerably more beneficial.
> I think the most important thing is getting a system that's 
> fair. At the moment the memberbot method is horribly horribly 
> biased towards the first five candidates: despite being one 
> of the very strongest candidates, I'd be very suprised if 
> Remko (the last candidate,
> alphabetically) manages to get a fair proportion of 
> votes...my suspicion is that the new council will be four of 
> the first five candidates, arranged alphabetically, plus PSA, 
> who is something of a special case.
> So whether we move to a web system, which I have no great 
> objection to, or we make a new memberbot, which I've 
> indicated to PSA I'm willing to have a look at, I think we 
> quite desperately need to implement a fairer system (simply 
> randomising the order of candidates would penalise all 
> candidates equally, which is good enough at this stage, I think).
> /K
> --
> Kevin Smith, PhD Student, Computer Science, Exeter University 
> http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/people/kismith
> Psi XMPP client project leader - http://psi-im.org

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