[Members] XSF membership: what does it mean?

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at stpeter.im
Tue Nov 4 16:51:11 CST 2008

Daniel Henninger didn't re-apply for XSF membership:


I've been commenting at his post, as have a few others.

The basic confusion is that some folks expect XSF membership to mean
something -- as in, we have some deeply meaningful conversations on this
list, plot out the future of XMPP technologies, etc.

By contrast, I see the membership as something we need in order to
maintain the XSF as a legal entity. We are a non-profit corporation
that's defined as a membership organization, so we need members. But we
don't limit participation to members (or employees of sponsoring
companies), as too many closed industry consortia do. Instead, all of
our important work takes place on open mailing lists, chatrooms, and
sometimes IRL at the XMPP Summit meetings.

Because XSF members don't really do much *as members*, some people get
confused. Why isn't there any conversation on the members at xmpp.org list?
Where is the secret handshake? Etc. But that's not the point of being an
XSF member.

We could change that. We could ask XSF members to get more heavily
involved in website development, running the jabber.org service, doing
interop testing, marketing, and so on. That would be great, if people
are interested. But I don't see a strong reason to limit things so that
only XSF members can help with any of those tasks.

Folks here may disagree with this approach, which would be fine with me.
After all, agreement is overrated. :)

What do you think?


Peter Saint-Andre

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