[Members] PayPal links

Jonathan Schleifer js-xmpp-members at webkeks.org
Wed May 20 09:46:22 CDT 2009

Am 19.05.2009 um 23:43 schrieb Peter Saint-Andre:

> Currently it is not free for us to generate certificates via StartCom
> (and I don't think it ever would be free)

I wonder if this is a good idea for the foundation of a free,  
decentralized protocol to support a single, specific company (which is  
all but embracing being decentralized). I think if we really spend  
money for certs, we should try to be decentralized there as well and  
have agreements with other companies as well.

> so it seems appropriate to
> ask for a donation when someone receives a certificate that otherwise
> might cost them hundreds of dollars a year. :)

Well, the cert you get is not really comparable to the certs they  
sell :/. If you want to use your XMPP StartCom Cert for example for  
your website as well, you will get a warning in every browser, as they  
use a different Root CA for that. So it's as useful as using some  
other service that's free, but not listed in the Root CAs of the 4 big  
browsers. This is the reason why I went back to CACert after trying  
the XMPP StartCom Cert, since the CACert Root CA will most likely be  
included in the next Firefox version while the XMPP StartCom Root CA  
most likely never will. Or did they change the Root CA for the XMPP  
Certs now?


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