[Members] Metaproposals 3 and 4 - Council Candidate Limitations and Appointment Appeals

Nicolas Vérité nicolas.verite at gmail.com
Thu Oct 8 04:58:34 CDT 2009

Funny that only the two people concerned reply, and say it's not a problem...

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:42, Dave Cridland <dave at cridland.net> wrote:
> On Thu Oct  8 10:16:26 2009, Nicolas Vérité wrote:
>> * don't accept the candidates who have more 'no' than 'yes'. I think
>> it's obvious.
> I think that's strictly the case already for Council - we should formally
> add the limit there too.
>> * we also have to find a way to limit the number of candidates and/or
>> elected member from one enterprise and/or community, in order to avoid
>> the actual problematic situation where we got two members of one
>> enterprise in the Council, and one in the Board (so 3 out of 8 to 10
>> places)
> You're referring, of course, to Isode - and counting Kev as working here
> already, which he's not yet. (And, of course, Will doesn't actually work at
> all, being in Marketing).
> I agree it's a potential concern, but I think it's more of a perception
> issue than a real one in practise - especially when, as we will be, we all
> work remotely from each other.
> In an ideal world, of course, if the members had reservations about the
> situation, the members wouldn't vote that way, but because we vote
> individual candidates, rather than our choice of Council, it's hard to
> express that.
> Moreover, you also have - as Justin pointed out - both Kev and Remko - both
> closely working together on Swift. I think that's probably as much of a
> problem as too many Isode (or ProcessOne, or Cisco) people would be.
> If you *do* want to impose limits, you'll need to do them on the basis of
> canidature and not election, therefore, and I suspect that there's a risk of
> imposing so many limits that we lose out. I personally think there are times
> when the best Council achievable from the candidates standing is quite
> likely to have multiple people from the same company.
> If for no other reason than Isode seems to have a habit of hiring the
> candidates while they're standing. (And yes, it would have been much better
> had we arranged to hire Kev well before the elections).
> Dave.
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