[Members] XMPP Standards Foundation on Facebook

jehan at zemarmot.net jehan at zemarmot.net
Wed Dec 15 18:54:30 CST 2010


Hi,

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 11:54:09 -0500, bear <bear42 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 06:21, Dave Cridland <dave at cridland.net> wrote:
>> On Sun Dec 12 12:23:53 2010, Jonathan Schleifer wrote:
>>>
>>> I also agree 100% to the rest of what Jehan said.
>>
>> Likewise.
> 
> Agree also
> 

Ok so since this XSF group on Facebook has been exposed on this members
mailing, we have had 4 members (Jonathan Schleifer, Dave Cridland, Bear
and myself) against this project AS OFFICIAL (it seems we agree to say
this is ok if people from XSF or the XMPP community want to gather
unofficially on Facebook: of course the XSF has nor the right nor the
goal to decide how or on which service its members spend their time). On
the other side, nobody — except obviously Ludovic Bocquet in the
original message — went publicly for the idea.

>> "Official" to my mind means with the sanction of the membership (as
>> determined by majority vote), or, more typically, by the Board.
>>
>> I've no objection to any unofficial XMPP-related presence anywhere, and
>> indeed to an unofficial point on Facebook for members also on Facebook to
>> befriend, or like, or whatever it is one does on Facebook. But I know for a
>> fact this has not been discussed by the members as a whole, and I'm not
>> aware of it being discussed by the Board.
>>
>> Furthermore, I would hope - for the reasons Jehan and JS said - that the
>> Board would not have sanctioned such a thing.
> 
> It has not been discussed by the board that I know of unless it's a
> carry-over from the prior board.
> 

In the meantime, unless any of us "missed" some information there has
been no vote from the members (if there has been one, it has definitely
not been advertized on the members list), nor the board (here I may
personally have missed this because I don't know all activities from the
board, but I know for sure the Board did not tell about such a vote on
the members list as well).

Yet what do I see just a few minutes ago while browsing the website?
You guess it, you get it: a Facebook badge (I don't know since when it
is, but I think this is very new). I also see a Linkedin badge next to
the Facebook one, and I personally don't agree on it either. I really
think this is a little chocking especially as several members wrote
against the proposition and none of the members who want this even tried
to enter a discussion to convince us. Instead we are simply presented
with a "fait accompli".

Would it be possible to have more explanation about this please because
I don't think this kind of arbitrary decision is really the way we want
the XSF to work (or I have really been misleaded)?
Thanks.

Jehan


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