[Members] New Wiki?

Steffen Larsen zooldk at gmail.com
Sun Feb 14 11:44:05 CST 2010


Hi all you beautiful XMPP members! :-)

I've been talking with Alexander Gnauk lately about our wiki  
(wiki.xmpp.org), because I needed to update the site about our member  
bot and what kind of features we want in the future for the bot.
After updating the wiki and talking a bit with Alexander, we came to  
the conclusion that a new wiki could be really nice, because of a lot  
of bad behaviors of the old one (difficult to add new users, password  
changes and administration in general).
So I was thinking the other day of the alternatives for a new wiki.

After using both JIRA, fisheye and confluence at work I was wondering  
why we do not use this scenario as well for our XSF? We already use  
fisheye as a SCM GUI, so for me it looks straight-forward to use  
confluence as well for our new wiki.
As I see it we to consolidate our communication a bit and structure it  
and I believe that we can obtain that by moving our media wiki to  
Atlassian's confluence (a more structured wiki).

With confluence we get an easy administration for users and pages and  
it integrates very well with other kinds of software, e.g. Fisheye,  
JIRA and all other open social gadget based platforms.  I do not know  
if we have any issue tracking back-end yet, otherwise we could use  
JIRA as well to keep track of who is doing what (assign tasks to  
people instead of just emails flowing around) and even our XML/XSD  
protocol documents (XEPs). In that way our internal pages could be  
coupled together with the documents we are working on. We can even  
define our own work flow if we want.

I have used a couple of days to setup Confluence locally as our wiki  
and it seems very nice and simple for us to use if we want to have it  
instead of media wiki. So what do you guys think of the idea?

I also have some questions for you guys that have a longer  
relationship with the current wiki.. what is the current wiki used  
for?.. As I see it we use it as an intranet for swapping XMPP ideas,  
consolidating dates, meetings, future roadmaps etc? Am I correct? on  
the current wiki there is also some links for XMPP servers and  
clients, but why is this needed if they are already presented on the  
normal page of www.xmpp.org? I would also like to see the new wiki as  
a starting place for new members (like my self) to get an introduction  
about the structure of XMPP, the different teams etc. So all the stuff  
on the www.xmpp.org is the public stuff about the XMPP protocol and  
the wiki.xmpp.org is for the collaborating members.

To get back to the facts about confluence:

* We an get it for free, because we are an non-profix organization,  
which is nice. :-)
* To install it on our servers we need an application server or  
servlet container (like tomcat or jboss etc) and a mysql for database  
storage.
* If we have a LDAP of all the XMPP members we can use this ni  
confluence for users, passwords and access rights. So we would also be  
able to split the different teams with different access and rights.
* We can import our current media wiki if we want to.. there is a  
plugin for this..

Some links:

http://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence/
http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/

By the way I am in no way associated with Atlassian, just a daily user  
of their software. ha ha!

What do you guys think?.. Shall I continue my work and present a  
workable demo of it in the coming weeks (I'll send a link later on)?..  
I would also gladly help by installing the software on the servers if  
the members think its a good idea.


--Cheers and have a nice Valentines day!

--
Steffen Larsen
http://www.zool.dk
xmpp:zooldk at gmail.com

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