[Members] the "Proposed" state in XEP-0001

Kevin Smith kevin at kismith.co.uk
Fri Mar 11 01:09:49 CST 2011

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:32 PM, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter at stpeter.im> wrote:
>>>> My point is that it clearly possible that a Last Call would get
>>>> issued and then the Council learns something during that call that
>>>> leads it to deny the request for progression.  If this were to
>>>> happen, I think it would be generally for the document remain in the
>>>> Experimental state (so the issues raised during Last Call can be
>>>> addressed) then automatically be moved into a dead-end state
>>>> (requiring the authors to submit a whole new XEP with largely the
>>>> same content).
>>> Right, and that's what happens now.
>> Can you clarify 'that' here?  'that' could refer to 'document remains in the Experimental state' or could refer to 'moved to a dead-end state'.
> It remains Experiemental. Essentially, the Council asks the author(s) to
> "revise and resubmit".

My understanding of this is that the Council just avoids the vote on
Draft if it feels it isn't ready, to avoid needing to reject it. Under
the current XEP-1 rules, if an author was absolutely adamant that
Council went ahead and voted regardless of Last Call feedback, the
right output is that the XEP is Rejected. This does seem silly. I
think it would be better for a failed Draft vote to result in it
moving back to Experimental, and Rejected to be a state that Council
could move a XEP to at any point in the Experimental lifetime (which
it never would).


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