[Members] Annual T-Shirt Debate

Matthew Wild mwild1 at gmail.com
Fri Jan 13 15:22:09 UTC 2012

On 13 January 2012 13:32, Dave Cridland <dave at cridland.net> wrote:
> Folks,
> As many of you will remember, we tend to sell T-Shirts at FOSDEM, in part
> because everyone else there does.
> The XSF differs from most of the projects in selling t-shirts at close to
> cost, historically - instead, we're really more interested in drawing people
> to the stand to talk about XMPP, and to publicise XMPP through FOSDEM and in
> general.
> We're shorter on sponsors for this year's event, so we need to be careful
> not to make an actual loss here. Last time we did t-shirts, we did indeed
> make a loss.
> Also, historically, we have a fun argument each year about what colour
> t-shirts, what the logo should be, and so on.
> For reference, the going rate for a simple t-shirt at FOSDEM is €5 to €15.
> Some people have sold them at €20, from memory. €5 is (very) cheap for a
> t-shirt at FOSDEM.
> Rather than start this argument from scratch, this year Florian and I have
> been chatting things over, and we're giving some initial options out. It
> *is* possible to pick both.
> 1) A "Hooded T" - t-shirt material, long sleeved, with a hood - with a (very
> simple) varsity/GAP style "XMPP" across the front. Colour of the hooded T
> would be "Dark Graphite", which is essentially a dark grey. Cost price is
> about €13, so selling these at €15 will make some profit, but they'll be
> amongst the more expensive.

Sounds like a good idea, considering the time of year and the location
of the event. Everyone selling t-shirts at FOSDEM always amused me for
this reason :)

> 2) Black t-shirt, breast-print, as three years ago. Picture:
> http://dave.cridland.net/t-shirt/xsf-2009.jpeg (Awful picture, but you get
> the idea).

I don't have any of these. Would buy.

> As history, we still have some of these, too:
> http://dave.cridland.net/t-shirt/xsf-2010.jpeg
> (They have </presence> on the back).
> We failed to sell many of these in 2010, and even failed to give them away
> in 2011. In fact, their only saving grace is that the picture compresses
> almost 300k better, and that's not the most useful sales point. Note that we
> had to drop our prices when they didn't sell, hence my reasoning that we
> should ensure we have an adequate margin to do so.

I have a number of these (from when Florian was forcing them on us). I
seem to recall no medium-sized are left, otherwise I'd take more. I
still wear them regularly...


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