[Members] Annual T-Shirt Debate

Dave Cridland dave at cridland.net
Thu Jan 19 22:34:17 UTC 2012

I've finalized the t-shirt order for this year - details tomorrow.

Maybe we could use that design next year?

(Not at my desk)

Diana Cionoiu <diana-liste at null.ro> wrote:

>  Hello,
>Our great designer Stefan made a design for XMPP t-shirt.
>It can be found at:
>P.S. Sorry for not getting this earlier to you guys.
>On 01/13/2012 05:22 PM, Matthew Wild wrote:
>> On 13 January 2012 13:32, Dave Cridland<dave at cridland.net>  wrote:
>>> Folks,
>>> As many of you will remember, we tend to sell T-Shirts at FOSDEM, in part
>>> because everyone else there does.
>>> The XSF differs from most of the projects in selling t-shirts at close to
>>> cost, historically - instead, we're really more interested in drawing people
>>> to the stand to talk about XMPP, and to publicise XMPP through FOSDEM and in
>>> general.
>>> We're shorter on sponsors for this year's event, so we need to be careful
>>> not to make an actual loss here. Last time we did t-shirts, we did indeed
>>> make a loss.
>>> Also, historically, we have a fun argument each year about what colour
>>> t-shirts, what the logo should be, and so on.
>>> For reference, the going rate for a simple t-shirt at FOSDEM is €5 to €15.
>>> Some people have sold them at €20, from memory. €5 is (very) cheap for a
>>> t-shirt at FOSDEM.
>>> Rather than start this argument from scratch, this year Florian and I have
>>> been chatting things over, and we're giving some initial options out. It
>>> *is* possible to pick both.
>>> 1) A "Hooded T" - t-shirt material, long sleeved, with a hood - with a (very
>>> simple) varsity/GAP style "XMPP" across the front. Colour of the hooded T
>>> would be "Dark Graphite", which is essentially a dark grey. Cost price is
>>> about €13, so selling these at €15 will make some profit, but they'll be
>>> amongst the more expensive.
>> Sounds like a good idea, considering the time of year and the location
>> of the event. Everyone selling t-shirts at FOSDEM always amused me for
>> this reason :)
>>> 2) Black t-shirt, breast-print, as three years ago. Picture:
>>> http://dave.cridland.net/t-shirt/xsf-2009.jpeg (Awful picture, but you get
>>> the idea).
>> I don't have any of these. Would buy.
>>> As history, we still have some of these, too:
>>> http://dave.cridland.net/t-shirt/xsf-2010.jpeg
>>> (They have</presence>  on the back).
>>> We failed to sell many of these in 2010, and even failed to give them away
>>> in 2011. In fact, their only saving grace is that the picture compresses
>>> almost 300k better, and that's not the most useful sales point. Note that we
>>> had to drop our prices when they didn't sell, hence my reasoning that we
>>> should ensure we have an adequate margin to do so.
>> I have a number of these (from when Florian was forcing them on us). I
>> seem to recall no medium-sized are left, otherwise I'd take more. I
>> still wear them regularly...
>> Regards,
>> Matthew

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