[Members] OAuth 2.0 and the Road to Hell

Florian Zeitz florob at babelmonkeys.de
Tue Jul 31 16:05:54 UTC 2012

Am 31.07.2012 17:52, schrieb Peter Saint-Andre:
> On 7/31/12 9:35 AM, David Banes wrote:
>> On 31/07/2012, at 4:16 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>>> On 7/30/12 2:10 AM, David Banes wrote:
>>>> An interesting read from a key person within the OAuth project...
>>>> OAuth 2.0 and the Road to Hell 
>>>> http://hueniverse.com/2012/07/oauth-2-0-and-the-road-to-hell/
>>> Hi David,
>>> Having been quite involved with the OAuth standardization effort at
>>> the IETF, I might have more detailed comments once I have had a
>>> chance to read Eran's post. However, I wonder why you think it's
>>> relevant to folks on this list -- do you think that something
>>> similar happened with XMPP technologies?
>>> Peter
>> Hi Peter,
>> No that hadn't crossed my mind at all but it's interesting that it
>> has yours! :-)
> Back in ~2001, when we were first contemplating the idea of
> standardizing the Jabber protocols at the IETF, I recall that a few
> people were concerned about the initiative because it would "suck the
> soul out of Jabber" or somesuch. Overall I think it went well, but I'm
> sure that if were doing it all again today we'd change some things
> around (e.g., at the least we wouldn't do all those stream restarts!).

as I read it Eran's post is largely about commercial players overtaking
or shutting down the (web) communities efforts/needs.

As someone who is part of the community / open source side of XMPP I'd
wholeheartedly disagree that any such thing happened with XMPP, neither
within the XSF nor the XMPP WG. I feel we are all working together quite
productively and in a fair, respectful exchange.


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