[Members] Google Summer of Code 2014 - Should the XSF Apply?

Dave Cridland dave at cridland.net
Fri Nov 29 15:11:51 UTC 2013

On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Simon Tennant <simon at buddycloud.com> wrote:

> How is letting people join freenode chatrooms from their XMPP client
> different from an XMPP transport like spectrum?
Hopefully no real difference, other than it's an officially sanctioned and
provided service, so it ought to be considerably lower friction.

> Is there really a demand from IRC people to talk to XMPP or is this a
> solution in search of a problem?

I've asked a few times, of various projects, why they use IRC for their
developer chatroom over XMPP, and the answer is generally either inertia or
good enough. My own feeling is that MUC is not sufficiently better to leave
IRC entirely, but it's still nicer - and quite honestly, it's hard to see
how it could be substantially nicer than IRC for the purposes of
semi-anonymized multiparty discussion, anyway.

But extending the Freenode IRCd (Dancer? I forget) to support XMPP would
lower that barrier sufficiently to gain access to a much wider audience -
we'd be competing on the user experience of content delivery, rather than
merely the content itself.

I think, overall, that it would be more of a benefit to us (XMPP folks)
than anyone else - but that's kind of our raison d'être, so I'm fine with

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