[Members] Fwd: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Form of Membership Applications

Dave Cridland dave at cridland.net
Wed Mar 12 22:06:16 UTC 2014


On 12 March 2014 18:22, Mike Taylor <bear at bear.im> wrote:

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> On 03/12/2014 01:31 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> > On 2/26/14, 12:49 PM, Dave Cridland wrote:
> >> This is relevant to all members.
> >>
> >> Like all new submissions, it's purely a personal proposal at this
> >> stage, and so has no force whatsoever.
> >>
> >> If and when nobody on the Board objects to it, it'll then become
> >> Experimental - again, like all new XEPs - which means it still
> >> has no force, but we (the members) will own it, and be be
> >> actively working to get it into a shape where the Board can
> >> Approve it, making it Active.
> >>
> >> Once Active, it *will* have force, and its title is a reference
> >> to a passage in the by laws which discusses membership
> >> applications.
> >>
> >> Therefore, please read and discuss.
> >
> > Sorry about the delayed reply.
> >
> > I think it would be helpful for us to provide a form of membership
> > application since that is mentioned in the bylaws:
>
> +1 to this and I feel that the XEP can be the place to set the items
> required
>
>
I'm obviously in favour, but I'll note that I interpreted "form" as a legal
term in the sense of required elements rather than preformatted page boxes
you fill in.


> >
> > "to be eligible for membership, a person, corporation,
> > organization, or other entity must complete a written membership
> > application in such form as shall be adopted by the Board of
> > Directors from time to time."
> >
> > -- http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/xsf-bylaws/
> >
> > I was surprised to see (or remember) that the bylaws allow
> > membership by entities other than natural persons. I will propose
> > separately that we modify the bylaws to allow only natural persons
> > to be members. This will simplify the Form of Membership
> > Application a bit.
>
> also +1
>
>
I'm happy to modify the bylaws as well to disallow corporate entities. (Or
rather, I'm happy for someone else to do it, and will grudgingly volunteer
if nobody else wants to).

Actually it's worse than you think anyway - a corporate entity could not
only become an XSF member, it could even stand for Council.

Maybe it's already happened? I always thought that Wild character looked a
bit like a corporate shill.


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> > Peter
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