[Members] [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Server to Server communication over STANAG 50666 ARQ

Kurt Zeilenga kurt.zeilenga at isode.com
Thu Aug 27 14:28:14 UTC 2015


XEP 0001 says one of the XSF objectives is "To guarantee that any person or entity can implement the protocols without encumbrance”.   Has anyone claimed that STANAG 5066 is a patent or otherwise encumbered protocol?   Dave claimed referenced spec is not publicly available.  While availability of a spec might create an obstacle to implementation, I don’t think obstacles in obtaining a referenced spec were quite what the authors of XEP 0001 had in mind when they wrote this objective.  I they had meant such we wouldn’t be able to reference any spec that only available for a fee, as a fee is also an obstacle to obtaining the spec.

Steve has stated that he would provide a copy of the reference spec to anyone wanting it.  That seems sufficiently “publicly available” to me.  While certainly it would be nice if the spec were readily downloadable via the public WWW… but I don’t think we have any such requirement in specs we reference.

I note that there seems to be an open source implementation of STANAG 5066 available at open5066.org <http://open5066.org/>.  That bods well for the protocol.  Seems there aren't encumbrances that prevent OSS implementation.

I note that there are claims it used in HAM radio.  That bods well for the availability of the specification (but not necessarily for protocol encumbrances).

While I’m fine with accepting the ProtoXEP as submitted, I think it would be great if this reference was updated with information on how implementors can obtain a copy of the document.

— Kurt

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