[Members] Thoughts on the US XMPP Summit

Arc Riley arcriley at gmail.com
Thu Jun 4 16:07:38 UTC 2015

I love the decision to colocate with RealtimeConf, but share Dave's
concern. Given the high cost of the conference and being in the process of
moving to the bay area, I haven't been able to register yet myself.

If tickets are expected to sell out, can a certain number of remaining
tickets be set aside (or added) for XSF folks? I think that would alleviate
most concerns.

Combining conference admittance with hotel accommodations and meals makes
it harder to afford, especially this far in advance. Speaking for myself,
I've always hated conference food and stay at generally stay at conference
hotels as a last resort. I'd really rather explore the city, eat at local
restaurants, and be able to choose where to stay.

I'd also be happy to organize a small conference hosted for free at a
university. Something the scale of FOSDEM would be a huge undertaking, but
I've put together smaller events with under 200 attendees without too much
work. Perhaps hosted by a local Internet Society chapter which could draw
in a wider audience than just the XSF.

On 4 Jun 2015 07:30, <adam at andyet.com> wrote:

>  I certainly concur that it would be awesome if there was a FOSDEM-like
> event in the US!
> For what it's worth, tickets are not sold out, and we will ensure that any
> XSF member will have the ability to purchase a RealtimeConf ticket.
> I can confirm that Ralph and Matthew Wild have already purchased tickets
> and will be there along with &yet's XSF folks (Peter Saint-Andre, Philipp
> Hancke, Lance Stout, Bear, Nathan Fritz)
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> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 7:18 AM, Dave Cridland <dave at cridland.net> wrote:
>> The Board seems to have decided to co-locate the US Summit with RealTime
>> Conf. It's been decided to co-locate on the basis that co-locating draws
>> people to the Summit. I agree with the reasoning; we co-locate with FOSDEM
>> because FOSDEM draws thousands of developers from across Europe, being the
>> largest free conference I'm aware of. There's no parallel in the US, which
>> is a shame - it'd be an obvious place to work.
>> Now, I happen to think Realtime Conf is pretty awesome. I made the last
>> two, and thoroughly enjoyed them.
>> But this year's is restricted to 150 tickets, which may already be sold
>> out. I know that all the &Yet folk will be there, and I've no doubt Ralph
>> will make it, and I'll do my best to persuade Surevine that it's
>> tremendously important to my professional development (although it's
>> probably too late).
>> But I'm a little worried that a US Summit needs more than just &Yet folk
>> and Ralph and (maybe) me.
>> Again, this is not to detract from Ralph, or the &Yet folk; but I can't
>> help but think that the major problem we have in the US is a lack of broad
>> participation, and a conference at which the numbers of attendees
>> interested in XMPP are going to be vanishingly small isn't going to help
>> this.
>> Now, if the decision is really because people just want to meet up and
>> chat about XMPP while at RTC, well, that's fine - but that's not the stated
>> reasoning. As I said at the beginning, I agree with the reasoning the Board
>> stated; I just don't think it leads to the same conclusion.
>> Dave.
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