[Members] S is for Software once more?

Kevin Smith kevin.smith at isode.com
Tue Apr 12 20:44:30 UTC 2016

On 21 Mar 2016, at 15:50, Dave Cridland <dave at cridland.net> wrote:
> I've sounded out a couple of other XMPP related projects who do not have any legal existence, and there seems to be some interest in the XSF taking this on from their perspective - not least because it is felt that the XSF is most likely to understand the community and allow it to remain intact.
> From the community's perspective, there is no expectation of wanting the XSF to provide hosting, or accept other costs. We do need some kind of legal existence in order to protect the IPR assets we have (the domain name and trademark), and we may in the future need an entity who can accept donations on our behalf. We would expect, and indeed hope, that the XSF offer similar to other client libraries, servers, and other "competing" projects.
> From the XSF's perspective, I believe that if this were the only project (or community of them) interesting in this kind of arrangement, there would be a risk of an appearance of bias - so again, I would hope there are other projects in similar spaces which would be interested, and moreover, I would avoid any illusion of control from the XSF, lest this imply a recommendation or approval.
> I'm intending raising this at the Board meeting in a little over an hour, but I'm not anticipating any kind of decision at this time given the very short notice and magnitude of this. Given I'm crippled by the weight of many hats in this, I find myself unable to form a fully impartial opinion - no matter what hat I wear - and will therefore be recusing myself from any voting in both camps in any case (not that the Ignite Realtime community votes).
> Nonetheless, I'd welcome comments - do we want the XSF to take on a role similar to SPI, the Software Conservancy, et al? Who would decide which projects to accept if we did? Who else would be interested?

I was waiting to respond to this to see if anything happened. There doesn’t seem to be any movement, so I’m not going to waste time on a long essay for a stalled idea, but I also don’t want silence to imply endorsement. I’ll just say that I have a few concerns with this, particularly around the cost to to the XSF (which is always volunteer-light) and seeming endorsement.


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