[Members] Membership voting

Kevin Smith kevin.smith at isode.com
Mon Feb 6 11:00:11 UTC 2017

On 6 Feb 2017, at 10:16, Ashley Ward <ash.wardly at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 6 Feb 2017, at 10:00, Guus der Kinderen <guus.der.kinderen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Would the voting process be improved by adding an "abstain" option?
> I'm not sure that would be particularly workable. The default being positive seems correct as if you don't have an objection to someone becoming a member then they should be allowed to become a member (think of if more as whether or not you have an objection, rather than as voting yes or no). However, at the moment it just requires a majority vote - maybe if we increased that to a larger majority (maybe something like 90% of members), or change it so that a certain number of "black balls" prevents someone becoming a member, that might work better.

I’m not sure this is right. The three main jobs of members are selecting Members, selecting Council and selecting Board, as well as being the pool from which Council (and other teams) are selected. So, while obviously my opinion, I think the question is not “Is there an obvious reason they shouldn’t be allowed in?”, but “Are they sufficiently knowledgeable to make informed decisions on the Council and Board?”. I don’t think it’s difficult to foresee a situation in which, if there are a critical mass of disconnected members, Council and Board membership becomes little more than “If an incumbent stands, get in, otherwise $RANDOM”.

> Of course this is all assuming there is currently a problem. Do we currently have anyone as a member who perhaps shouldn't have been voted in? I don't think we do, and so I'm not sure that there is a problem here that needs addressing at the moment.

As above, I don’t think this is purely an issue of ‘bad apples’, but also of the overall knowledge/engagedness of the membership. Whether we have or have had a problem already is another issue.


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