[Members] IM Observatory

Guus der Kinderen guus.der.kinderen at gmail.com
Thu Feb 9 21:07:13 UTC 2017


Isn't it pretty much unmaintained as-is? By moving it to the XSF, there at
least is a bigger pool of people to draw maintainers from.

I've read various complaints (from members) over the past year about "third
party" services like these that were poorly maintained - supposedly, at
least those members would pitch in if they had the opportunity / ability to
do so?

On 9 February 2017 at 21:59, Kevin Smith <kevin.smith at isode.com> wrote:

> On 9 Feb 2017, at 20:27, Guus der Kinderen <guus.der.kinderen at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > What are the reasons for the XSF not providing for services like these?
>
> My concern with these things is not so much that the XSF shouldn’t do
> them, but in terms of volunteers to work on them. It’s too easy for us to
> grab something excitedly, then for it to be silently abandoned for other
> people to pick up the pieces. I’ve always been keen that the iteam doesn’t
> end up fighting fires because stuff needs doing and it’s been abandoned.
>
> That said, the observatory *is* an interesting thing for the XSF to host,
> if people are willing to maintain the code.
>
> /K
>
> >
> > On 9 February 2017 at 21:12, Dave Cridland <dave at cridland.net> wrote:
> > On 9 February 2017 at 17:13, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter at stpeter.im>
> wrote:
> > > Kev's message just now reminds me that it would be good to discuss the
> > > future of the IM Observatory service at xmpp.net.
> > >
> > > Thijs Alkemade has put a lot of work into this and deserves our thanks.
> > > However, he is just one very busy person, so to make it viable
> long-term I'm
> > > wondering if the XSF might want to turn it into an open-source project
> > > running on a dedicated machine (and ideally able to be mirrored and
> also run
> > > locally). Granted, there would be quite a bit of project management
> > > required, but it seems like a worthy initiative.
> >
> > I have, previously, suggested that the XSF can and should act as the
> > natural home for services such as these, and been repeatedly shot
> > down. My view hasn't changed, though - I'd be very happy with the XSF
> > adopting the domain and services comprising the IM Observatory if it
> > were offered, and I'd suggest Board simply forms a Work Team and hands
> > it to them to run.
> >
> > As for the software, that's more or less entirely up to Thijs. I would
> > recommend moving it to github, and I'd approach other similar projects
> > to try to pool resources (I think Daniel Gultsch has some work in a
> > similar space).
> >
> > Dave.
> >
>
>
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