[Members] discuss.xmpp.org - Let's establish a great discussion venue for XMPP

Florian Schmaus flo at geekplace.eu
Sat Feb 11 21:08:29 UTC 2017

Hi everyone,

The Mailman 2 installation at mail.jabber.org acting as primary
discussion venue for the XMPP community contains a ton of valuable
information. Yet it is often very hard to find that information.

Additionally we see more and more discussions happening also at our
github site, which is not really ideal, because those discussions are
not visible to the whole community. See for example
https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/375. I'd like to channel the discussion
towards one place, not multiple.

I hereby propose that we fade out mail.jabber.org in favour of a
self-hosted Discourse [1] instance at discuss.xmpp.org. Discourse is an
open source forum that *can be used just like a traditional mailing
list* (I ♥ mailing lists). It is easy to self-host, and I volunteer to
setup that instance and maintain it (I already maintain two Discourse
installations). Furthermore, it provides the required features to
organize the valuable information, e.g. we could tag discussion threads.
Want to find all discussions about XEP-0198? Just click on the tag!

As for the migration: I would stepwise switch the MLs to the discourse
instance and keep the archives on mail.jabber.org read-only for ever. I
would not migrate the old posts right now, as it requires substantial
manpower. Let's have clean fresh start. But of course, if we find the
resources (manpower) nothing prevents us from migrating the Mailman
archives to Discourse later on.

The IoT SIG would be happy to act as beta tester, and switch from the
iot at mail.jabber.org list to Discourse right after the installation is

I'd like to ask board to discuss my proposal and hope for a positive
response. I do believe that a modern discussion venue is essential or
the future of XMPP.

- Florian

1: discourse.org

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