[Members] discuss.xmpp.org - Let's establish a great discussion venue for XMPP

Rikard Strid rikard at clayster.com
Sat Feb 11 23:43:05 UTC 2017

I like this idea very much and agree with what Florian say.


From: Members <members-bounces at xmpp.org> on behalf of Joachim Lindborg <joachim.lindborg at sust.se>
Reply-To: XSF Members <members at xmpp.org>
Date: Saturday, 11 February 2017 at 18:14
To: XSF Members <members at xmpp.org>
Subject: Re: [Members] discuss.xmpp.org - Let's establish a great discussion venue for XMPP

+1 Really like that, and would gladly try it for IoT discussions.

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2017-02-11 22:08 GMT+01:00 Florian Schmaus <flo at geekplace.eu<mailto:flo at geekplace.eu>>:
Hi everyone,

The Mailman 2 installation at mail.jabber.org<http://mail.jabber.org> acting as primary
discussion venue for the XMPP community contains a ton of valuable
information. Yet it is often very hard to find that information.

Additionally we see more and more discussions happening also at our
github site, which is not really ideal, because those discussions are
not visible to the whole community. See for example
https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/375. I'd like to channel the discussion
towards one place, not multiple.

I hereby propose that we fade out mail.jabber.org<http://mail.jabber.org> in favour of a
self-hosted Discourse [1] instance at discuss.xmpp.org<http://discuss.xmpp.org>. Discourse is an
open source forum that *can be used just like a traditional mailing
list* (I ♥ mailing lists). It is easy to self-host, and I volunteer to
setup that instance and maintain it (I already maintain two Discourse
installations). Furthermore, it provides the required features to
organize the valuable information, e.g. we could tag discussion threads.
Want to find all discussions about XEP-0198? Just click on the tag!

As for the migration: I would stepwise switch the MLs to the discourse
instance and keep the archives on mail.jabber.org<http://mail.jabber.org> read-only for ever. I
would not migrate the old posts right now, as it requires substantial
manpower. Let's have clean fresh start. But of course, if we find the
resources (manpower) nothing prevents us from migrating the Mailman
archives to Discourse later on.

The IoT SIG would be happy to act as beta tester, and switch from the
iot at mail.jabber.org<mailto:iot at mail.jabber.org> list to Discourse right after the installation is

I'd like to ask board to discuss my proposal and hope for a positive
response. I do believe that a modern discussion venue is essential or
the future of XMPP.

- Florian

1: discourse.org<http://discourse.org>

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