[Members] discuss.xmpp.org - Let's establish a great discussion venue for XMPP

Florian Schmaus flo at geekplace.eu
Sun Feb 12 08:15:01 UTC 2017


On 12.02.2017 04:28, Emmanuel Gil Peyrot wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 12:44:18AM +0100, Mathieu Pasquet wrote:
> […]
>> - github discussions will stay on github, because that’s just how things
>>   flow, you propose a change there and get feedback on it at the same
>>   place. The only way to go around this would be to mandate opening a
>>   topic on discourse before making a pull request, which is something I
>>   suspect most people wouldn’t find pleasant.
> 
> If communication scattering is what you are trying to fix, this indeed
> isn’t a good solution.  A possible one would be to publish every change
> to every repository in the xsf organisation to one of the mailing
> lists, and have a way for users without a github account to have their
> emails forwarded there.

Of course. But Mailman 2 basically encourages people to use github
instead of the mailing lists. Also it's not about the changes happening
on github, it's about the discussions. If it where me, I would probably
establish a strict "editors/council member comments only" on github PRs
and issues, and have every PR/issue link to the related Discourse thread.

>> - I have stayed away from most discourse websites because they always
>>   required javascript to display anything, so I am not entirely aware of
>>   the features it offers, but does it have the same featureset for email
>>   users as mailman? e.g. creating new topics, replying by email, sending
>>   properly threaded replies, etc…
>>
>> One of the few quotes I could find on the subjet (from jeff atwood, but
>> in 2013):
>>
>>> Discourse is really email for notifications (of new topics, in digest
>>> emails, and when people reply to you) and replies (you can reply to
>>> those email notifications via email) but is not yet suited for 100%
>>> email-only interaction. It's a hybrid of email and web at the moment.
> 
> Another community was recently having issues with their mailing list
> and forum integration, and someone was suggesting using Discourse
> instead, but there are apparently other issues with this software and
> its community:
> http://lists.libsdl.org/pipermail/sdl-libsdl.org/2017-January/101110.html

Sadly this mail provides no details about what the "toxic development
culture" may be. Needless to say I do not share that experience.

- Florian

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