[Members] discuss.xmpp.org - Let's establish a great discussion venue for XMPP

Florian Schmaus flo at geekplace.eu
Sun Feb 12 16:20:59 UTC 2017


On 12.02.2017 12:18, Jonas Wielicki wrote:
> On Samstag, 11. Februar 2017 22:08:29 CET Florian Schmaus wrote:
>> I hereby propose that we fade out mail.jabber.org in favour of a
>> self-hosted Discourse [1] instance at discuss.xmpp.org. Discourse is an
>> open source forum that *can be used just like a traditional mailing
>> list* (I ♥ mailing lists). It is easy to self-host, and I volunteer to
>> setup that instance and maintain it (I already maintain two Discourse
>> installations). Furthermore, it provides the required features to
>> organize the valuable information, e.g. we could tag discussion threads.
>> Want to find all discussions about XEP-0198? Just click on the tag!
> 
> Okay, so if you have actual experience with using Discourse as a mailing list, 
> that’s great. My only experience is from 2015, and there threading did not 
> work in the E-Mail interface with my MUA (KMail). The headers appear to be 
> there though. Also, note that the threading on the mailing list interface (if 
> your MUA understands it; Icedove/Thunderbird and K9-Mail understand it for 
> example) is as flat as the threading on the website, which I consider a 
> downside compared to a classic mailinglist.

Mail threading in Discourse was improved with
https://meta.discourse.org/t/emails-not-threaded/44444/12?u=flow and
https://github.com/discourse/discourse/commit/74b6fe8739d86dc2284707e8507ac732420a1b8c.

>> Additionally we see more and more discussions happening also at our
>> github site, which is not really ideal, because those discussions are
>> not visible to the whole community. See for example
>> https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/375. I'd like to channel the discussion
>> towards one place, not multiple.
> 
> I’m not sure if deploying a Discourse going to solve that.

No, Discourse alone will not solve that. It was just meant as another
piece of motivation.

- Florian

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