[Members] "Group Chat" vs. "Chatroom" (Was: Terminology (and about the Glossary on the wiki))

Georg Lukas georg at op-co.de
Fri Feb 9 13:10:49 UTC 2018

Hi JC,

thanks for picking up the ball! Finally there is some more discussion
regarding our nomenclature!

* JC Brand <jc at opkode.com> [2018-02-09 12:45]:
> I took a look at what the Glossary on the XSF wiki says for MUC rooms, and I
> would like to make the argument why I disagree with its recommended term of "group chat".

I've spent some time thinking about the implications and the look of the
different variants, and also checked the existing implementations.

I agree with your opposition to "channel" (which is btw. a name used
as early as 1992 on the IRC network), and I tend to agree that a
"chatroom" is a better name for the "classic" MUC use case of
semi-anonymous public conference rooms.

However, thinking forward, I'd like to make impromptu chats, as
described in <https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Easy_Group_Chats>, a first class
citizen of the modern XMPP experience.

Conversations already has those, and they are modelled loosely after
other mobile IM systems where you can invite a bunch of friends into a
private group. The arguments you provide in your mail make the term
"group chat" look like a better fit for them.

At least WhatsApp and Conversations are using the term "group chat", and
yaxim has adopted it in the current beta version as well.

I think it would be bad for the UX if we provide both "chatroom" for
classic public MUCs and "group chat" for the private multi-person
conferences in our clients, so it is reasonable to decide upon one.

Public MUCs are not widely used by normal people. Private chats
(hopefully) are.

These are the reasons.

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