[Members] "Group Chat" vs. "Chatroom" (Was: Terminology (and about the Glossary on the wiki))

Georg Lukas georg at op-co.de
Fri Feb 9 13:10:49 UTC 2018


Hi JC,

thanks for picking up the ball! Finally there is some more discussion
regarding our nomenclature!

* JC Brand <jc at opkode.com> [2018-02-09 12:45]:
> I took a look at what the Glossary on the XSF wiki says for MUC rooms, and I
> would like to make the argument why I disagree with its recommended term of "group chat".

I've spent some time thinking about the implications and the look of the
different variants, and also checked the existing implementations.

I agree with your opposition to "channel" (which is btw. a name used
as early as 1992 on the IRC network), and I tend to agree that a
"chatroom" is a better name for the "classic" MUC use case of
semi-anonymous public conference rooms.

However, thinking forward, I'd like to make impromptu chats, as
described in <https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Easy_Group_Chats>, a first class
citizen of the modern XMPP experience.

Conversations already has those, and they are modelled loosely after
other mobile IM systems where you can invite a bunch of friends into a
private group. The arguments you provide in your mail make the term
"group chat" look like a better fit for them.

At least WhatsApp and Conversations are using the term "group chat", and
yaxim has adopted it in the current beta version as well.

I think it would be bad for the UX if we provide both "chatroom" for
classic public MUCs and "group chat" for the private multi-person
conferences in our clients, so it is reasonable to decide upon one.

Public MUCs are not widely used by normal people. Private chats
(hopefully) are.

These are the reasons.


Georg
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