[Members] "Group Chat" vs. "Chatroom" (Was: Terminology (and about the Glossary on the wiki))

Daniel Gultsch daniel at gultsch.de
Fri Feb 9 13:57:42 UTC 2018

I think WhatsApp is using the term Group instead of group chat. I kinda
wish I would have chosen that phrase as well. I just don't want to rename
it again just now. (maybe for the 2.0 release)

On Feb 9, 2018 14:30, "Georg Lukas" <georg at op-co.de> wrote:

> Hi JC,
> thanks for picking up the ball! Finally there is some more discussion
> regarding our nomenclature!
> * JC Brand <jc at opkode.com> [2018-02-09 12:45]:
> > I took a look at what the Glossary on the XSF wiki says for MUC rooms,
> and I
> > would like to make the argument why I disagree with its recommended term
> of "group chat".
> I've spent some time thinking about the implications and the look of the
> different variants, and also checked the existing implementations.
> I agree with your opposition to "channel" (which is btw. a name used
> as early as 1992 on the IRC network), and I tend to agree that a
> "chatroom" is a better name for the "classic" MUC use case of
> semi-anonymous public conference rooms.
> However, thinking forward, I'd like to make impromptu chats, as
> described in <https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Easy_Group_Chats>, a first class
> citizen of the modern XMPP experience.
> Conversations already has those, and they are modelled loosely after
> other mobile IM systems where you can invite a bunch of friends into a
> private group. The arguments you provide in your mail make the term
> "group chat" look like a better fit for them.
> At least WhatsApp and Conversations are using the term "group chat", and
> yaxim has adopted it in the current beta version as well.
> I think it would be bad for the UX if we provide both "chatroom" for
> classic public MUCs and "group chat" for the private multi-person
> conferences in our clients, so it is reasonable to decide upon one.
> Public MUCs are not widely used by normal people. Private chats
> (hopefully) are.
> These are the reasons.
> Georg
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