[Members] Membership Application period Q1 2018

Dave Cridland dave at cridland.net
Thu Jan 4 16:56:24 UTC 2018

On 4 January 2018 at 16:09, Daniel Pocock <daniel at pocock.pro> wrote:
> On 02/01/18 15:33, Alexander Gnauck wrote:
>> I have created the membership application page for Q1 2018 at:
>> https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications_Q1_2018
> I'd like to reapply but I can't log in to the wiki, maybe my account was
> lost after the wiki problems.
> Also, is it really necessary for everybody to go through this process
> every year or can some mechanism be used to automatically validate
> people?  E.g. if somebody's name has appeared on a mailing list, if
> their blog is syndicated on planet.jabber.org or if they made a
> contribution to the wiki then that could qualify them to remain a member

But none of those are either sufficient, nor necessary, for XSF membership.

If I can rant lyrical for a moment, what I expect from XSF members is
that they contribute meaningfully to the XMPP Standards Foundation.

The XSF exists to enable the development and evangelisation (ie,
marketing, but we're engineers so we think that's a dirty word) of the
XMPP standards. The XSF does not, itself, actually develop the
standards (there's a confusion here in that the Council arguably
contributes a significant effort to development of XMPP, but one can
view it as ensuring the process is working from a technical

As an example, writing a XEP doesn't require XSF membership, and nor should it.

But ensuring that the XEP *can* be published, *is* published, has a
process to follow to ensure quality, and follows that process - those
are all activities which the XSF does. Groups exist for each of these
- the iteam, the Editors, the Board, and the Council (sorta).

The XSF organises conferences (SCAM), and does outreach and marketing
(well, comms team if it existed).

I would hope that people wanting to be members are applying not to do
the things they could do anyway, but because they want to enable other
do do those things effectively.

All of which, by the way, should not be taken as a suggestion that
Daniel doesn't do anything - I think organising that FOSDEM devroom is
proof enough of that - but there are sadly a lot of names on the
member list that I don't see around in the teams helping with the
often quite dull work involved in keeping this whole thing running.


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