[standards-jig] Publish-Subscribe JEP status

Piers Harding piers at ompa.net
Fri Apr 12 06:34:33 UTC 2002

..... Which is why I suggested that we get on with what we can fit in now ( for the current Jabber incarnation ), but work with a view to the future ( JNG ).

On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 08:13:32PM -0700, Iain Shigeoka wrote:
> On 4/11/02 10:50 AM, "Piers Harding" <piers at ompa.net> wrote:
> > So would it be a good starting point be to define two things:
> > 
> > (a) the protocol requirement to support pubsub, and to do it within the
> > existing base Jabber protocol
> > (b) the additions or rework to support JNG
> > 
> > From this we could work out what of the JNG stuff could go into (a) without
> > breaking it, and making the uptake to difficult for existing client developers
> > etc., and then ear mark the rest for what needs to revisited for version 2.0,
> > when we get a JNG backbone to work with.
> The danger here is that JNG is still a very nebulous thing with no schedule,
> goals, vision, etc.  Tossing things into the "wait for JNG" bucket may be
> necessary but I'm getting a little worried about how wise it is to keep
> doing this.  For example, how many people are still thinking about framing
> issues after packet framing was thrown into the "wait for JNG" bucket?
> > And just an aside - surely these kind of issues crop up across the board, for
> > most protocol discussions?  Aren't there all kinds of mods that could be
> > required to support JNG?  Maybe this should be a separate JEP in itself -
> > migration guidelines/strategy to JNG.
> Agreed.  Although, until JNG at least begins to take on some shape, it will
> be premature to make any migration suggestions.  Still, it should definitely
> be put on the to do list for JNG.
> -iain
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