[standards-jig] A Proposal to the DTCP/JOBS/PASS madness

Matthew A. Miller linuxwolf at outer-planes.no-ip.com
Fri Dec 13 22:21:05 UTC 2002

On the subject of HTTP:

I had started work on (only) using HTTP for JOBS' out-of-band
communication[1], but have been convinced by some to present its
authentication mechanism as a "stand-alone" HTTP authentication scheme. 
With consideration of this proposal, it could be possible to combine the
two, but that would mean standardizing on an OOB protocol (if for
nothing more than bootstrapping).  It's a thought; I'm not motivated to
say it should or should not be combined.

- LW


On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 12:30, Jer wrote:
> > I did some thinking last nite and have an idea on how we can deal with
> > some of the outstanding issues facing the community. Let me now present
> > my case..
> Excellent Diz, I go to sit down and write my own summary, and find out 
> you've already done one better, nice :)
> As was mentioned in the brief council meeting last night, using HTTP as 
> the standard mechanism still "downgrades" to a standard async 
> bytestream TCP socket using the standard CONNECT method in the HTTP 
> spec.  What I also like about HTTP is that you don't need to transfer 
> any meta info about the file xfer, such as media, size, etc, you use 
> HTTP HEAD, that in addition to the plethora of proxies in the middle 
> (PASS-style works as well) and other software/libs that can be bolted 
> onto clients to hand off requests to.  There's also the possibility of 
> doing HTTPS, and even certificate auth for better security.
> I'd say that this is an excellent 80/20 solution, if not better, it may 
> not be optimal in some rare situations, but it's simplicity and 
> immediate usability will make up for it general file transfer use.  
> It's very much in line with the original OOB mindset *g*.
> Jer
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Matt "linuxwolf" Miller
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