[standards-jig] Message Body rendering conformance.

Shawn Wilton shawn at black9.net
Sun Jan 20 06:37:46 UTC 2002


Heheh, yeah.  that's why I have it running in the formatting list as well,
even if I was in a hurry and used the wrong subject, so if anyone who
replies to that message could change it to something meaningful...

-----Original Message-----
From: standards-jig-admin at jabber.org
[mailto:standards-jig-admin at jabber.org]On Behalf Of Julian Missig
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 10:31 PM
To: standards-jig at jabber.org
Subject: Re: [standards-jig] Message Body rendering conformance.


Yeah, I see now. Note that you used the word formatting - that's why it
should go to Formatting JIG ;)

David Waite wrote:
> I think Shawn is talking about standardizing the current text-based
> formatting options (i.e. /me, and groupchat-specifics like /subject,
/join,
> and /part).
>
> -David Waite
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Julian Missig" <julian at jabber.org>
> To: <standards-jig at jabber.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 11:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [standards-jig] Message Body rendering conformance.
>
>
>
>>This should probably go to the Fomatting JIG ;) - But it's perfectly
>>possible to make another extension if you don't like the XHTML one.
>>
>>Julian
>>
>>Shawn Wilton wrote:
>>
>>>Hey howdy.  I had an idea and wanted to put it before
>>>the big shots.  They told me to send it here.  ;-)
>>>
>>>So the idea is this.  We have a problem right now
>>>with how clients handle the rendering/formatting of
>>>the message body.  Now I know about the xhtml spec and
>>>this has *nothing* to do with that.  If you want bold,
>>>italicism, etc. then you should use the xhtml.  No,
>>>what I'm talking about are things like the irc tags
>>>and emoticons.  Now when I go to use the aim or the
>>>msn system, etc. then I get a consist look and feel
>>>in the formatting of a message.  I know what the other
>>>person is going to see when i send them something.
>>>Unfortunately we do not yet have this sort of
>>>congruence in jabber and I think this only hurts us.
>>>
>>>Here's what I propose:
>>>We need a system.  A system that clients can implement
>>>that gives all of us a similar format to work with.
>>>1.  We need emoticons.  These should be smileys, winks,
>>>    etc. and they need to be free (BSD lisenced icons).
>>>    For these emoticons we also need standard maps
>>>    from text -> graphic that people can use in their
>>>    clients.
>>>2.  We need a standard list of irc like tags.  As it
>>>    stands, almost all clients implement /me for example.
>>>    I would also propose others for standard convenience.
>>>    /c for close, /subject for a subject change, and
>>>    anything else people can think of.
>>>
>>>Now this would all be optional of course since we can't
>>>and don't want to force people to use a system they
>>>don't care for.  But atleast then we have set of standards
>>>and free for use icons to work off of.
>>>
>>>I don't know, lmk what you think.
>>>
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