[standards-jig] Hidding groups in Jabber clients

David Waite mass at akuma.org
Wed Jul 31 17:40:48 UTC 2002


I would recommend instead that you create a separate namespace for 
storing this UI information. e.g.

<iq type='set'>
  <query xmlns='antepo:group-display'>
    <group type='hidden'>friends</group>
  </query>
</iq>

-David Waite

Jean-Louis Seguineau /EXC/TEC wrote:

>Hi everybody,
>
>The actual jabber protocol definition does not provide an information
>specifying if a <group> tag in a roster item should be shown or not by the
>end client. This as led in the past to client implementation that would rely
>on specific group names to hide/unhide groups. This is both imprecise and no
>scalable. An end user could easyly come up with a similar group name and
>have that new group made invisible. Managing all these sepcific group names
>would soon become a nightmare.
>
>I am taking advice from the community on how to go about this issue as this
>involves to modify the core protocole eventually. My inital thought was to
>just add an attribute to the existing <group> tag in the roster item that
>would be used by a client to process the group accordingly. This is backward
>compatible with the exisitng version of the protocol. If the attribute is
>missing, then the default behaviour would be to show the group, and all
>existing client would behave properly. Only client that would be aware of
>the tag would take adventage of it.
>
>A roster query would then look like
>
><iq type="get" id="uniquevalue">
>  <query xmlns="jabber:iq:roster">
>    <item jid="romeo at montague.net" name="Romeo"  subscription="both">
>      <group type="hidden">friends</group>
>    </item>
>    <item jid="juliet at capulet.com" name="Juliet"  subscription="both">
>      <group type="hidden">friends</group>
>    </item>
>  </query>
></iq>
>
>Another possible way of solving this issue would be to have some extension
>tag along with the roster that would specify what group should be
>shown/hidden
>
>A roster query would then look like
>
><iq type="get" id="uniquevalue">
>  <query xmlns="jabber:iq:roster">
>    <item jid="romeo at montague.net" name="Romeo"  subscription="both">
>      <group>friends</group>
>    </item>
>    <item jid="juliet at capulet.com" name="Juliet"  subscription="both">
>      <group>friends</group>
>    </item>
>     <x xmlns="jabber:iq:roster:group">
>         <group type="hidden">friends</group>
>     <x>
>  </query>
></iq>
>
>Comments welcome
>
>
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