[standards-jig] IPR policy

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at jabber.org
Mon Jun 3 21:12:30 UTC 2002


OK, I've received some comments from temas so I upped the revision. You
can check the latest version here:

http://www.jabber.org/tmp/ipr-policy.html

Comments are always welcome (hey DW, that includes you!).

Peter

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Peter Saint-Andre
Jabber Software Foundation
http://www.jabber.org/people/stpeter.html

On Sat, 1 Jun 2002, Ashvil wrote:

> I agree too.  I think I was confused between a proposal and a JEP standard.
> Any JEP standard should be copyrighted by the JSF.
> 
> Regards,
> Ashvil
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Saint-Andre" <stpeter at jabber.org>
> To: <standards-jig at jabber.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 10:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [standards-jig] IPR policy
> 
> 
> > Yes, this is for JEPs -- if you want your protocol enhancement to be
> > accepted as an official JSF standard, you assign copyright over the
> > enhancement and accompanying document to the JSF. If you want to keep
> > protocol enhancements private and retain all rights over them, the
> > solution is to simply not submit them to the JSF. This is much the way
> > that the IETF does things. If you want to play the game, you have to
> > follow the rules and share your toys. :) Note that you can still patent an
> > implementation of such an open standard, but you need to make it available
> > under a royalty-free license. This kind of policy has not prevented large
> > companies from participating in the standards process at the IETF or W3C,
> > so I'd think they wouldn't mind the same kind of policy at the JSF.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > --
> > Peter Saint-Andre
> > Jabber Software Foundation
> > http://www.jabber.org/people/stpeter.html
> >
> > On Thu, 30 May 2002, Ben Schumacher wrote:
> >
> > > Ashvil-
> > >
> > > While I agree with you that some companies might balk at assigning their
> > > copyrights to the JSF, I think its important that we make this a
> > > requirement for JEPs. In order to ensure that any additions to the
> > > protocol remain open and unencumbered, the JSF should have control over
> > > them, IMHO. (I'll let DW chime in and correct me if I'm wrong. ;-))
> > >
> > > As a point of reference, the FSF requires assignment of copyright for
> > > slightly different reasons, which I'm not sure if they apply here, but
> > > here's the link none-the-less:
> http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/why-assign.html
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > bs.
> > >
> > > On Thu, 30 May 2002, Ashvil wrote:
> > > > Hi Peter,
> > > >          Thanks for the quick turn around on this. The document looks
> very
> > > > good to me and I am Ok with it. I am not a lawyer but this makes
> sense.
> > > >
> > > > The only issue I see is section 5 could be an problem for some big
> > > > companies. I feel that they may be unhappy to assign their copyrights
> to the
> > > > Jabber foundation.
> > > >
> > > > There are two ways we can solve this
> > > > 1. Let some company complain and then find out what works for them.
> > > > OR
> > > > 2. We could change section 5 to
> > > > Copyright [date] [Authors AND/OR Company Submitting the JEP].
> > > > All rights reserved. Any Jabber Protocol Enhancements
> > > > defined herein are available in accordance with the
> > > > Jabber Software Foundation's Intellectual Property
> > > > Rights Policy (http://www.jabber.org/ipr.html).
> > > >
> > > > Either way will work for me.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Ashvil
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Peter Saint-Andre" <stpeter at jabber.org>
> > > > To: <standards-jig at jabber.org>
> > > > Cc: <members at jabber.org>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:53 PM
> > > > Subject: [standards-jig] IPR policy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I have put together an initial version of an IPR policy for the
> Jabber
> > > > > Software Foundation. You may find it here:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.jabber.org/jeps/jep-0034.html
> > > > >
> > > > > I have still not compared it thoroughly to the policies of the IETF
> and
> > > > > W3C, but discussion is welcome -- please post to the Standards-JIG
> list
> > > > > since that is where this thread began.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > Peter
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Peter Saint-Andre
> > > > > Jabber Software Foundation
> > > > > http://www.jabber.org/people/stpeter.html
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