[standards-jig] [jepnews] JEP-0021: Jabber Event Notification Service

Thomas Muldowney temas at box5.net
Tue Mar 5 03:03:08 UTC 2002


Yeah I talked through with Julian.  I guess I didn't get the part that
it can be used at will, even though the dtd might have other things in
mind for it.  Icky, but I concede the point, and would go along with the
three seperate elements.

--temas


On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 20:39, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 3/4/02 7:30 PM, "Thomas Muldowney" <temas at box5.net> wrote:
> 
> > I'm reading it all again to make sure I didn't miss anything, but it
> > sounds like the elements still have to be valid within their DTD.  So
> > what's their root and where is it?  Am I misinterpreting something?
> 
> Well, I guess the point I'm going for is that even if there is a root, just
> because you insert a fragment that is not the primary root, it's still
> valid. It could be very well be that the root element of the pub/sub DTD is
> simply <root>, with <publish>, <subscribe>, etc being child elements.
> 
> It seems much cleaner to just say:
> 
> <iq ...>
>   <subscribe xmlns='...'/>
> </iq>
> 
> Etc. 
> 
> Diz
> 
> > 
> > --temas
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 18:05, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On 3/4/02 4:12 PM, "Thomas Muldowney" <temas at box5.net> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> I disagree that it has to be a <query> element, but the usage of the
> >>> xmlns isn't correct currently in the spec. The xmlns has multiple root
> >>> elements, from a quick browse it seems to be <publish>, <subscribe> and
> >>> <unsubscribe>.  We need one root element or multiple namespaces.
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> Why do we need one root element (or multiple namespaces)? I'm not aware of
> >> any qualifications in the XML namespace spec that requires namespace'd
> >> fragments to have a root element...??
> >> 
> >> Frankly, I see the pub/sub stuff as fragments which we embed into other
> >> documents to gain additional functionality. I see nothing wrong with top
> >> level verbs (like publish/subscribe).
> >> 
> >> Diz
> >> 
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