[standards-jig] JEP-0045 Suggestions

Richard Dobson richard at dobson-i.net
Mon Sep 16 19:16:20 UTC 2002


Fine, if that is how you want it, but thats got nothing to do with the
protocol for doing the actual banning of people, that is up to the
client/admin tool developers and is outside the scope of the protocol we are
discussing now to do that.

Richard

----- Original Message -----
>From: <chicago5 at gmx.de>
To: <standards-jig at jabber.org>
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [standards-jig] JEP-0045 Suggestions


> I agree, that there must be the possibility to ban a jid for the whole
> server or for a room. however the banning for the complete conference
> server/complete server should not be possible too easily.
>
> splitting this into a proper administrative task, outside the conferencing
> module, can be unhandy for your application, but it keeps users safe from
> quick-banning-admins/conference server admins.
>
> ulrich
>
> > Yep, so there needs to be the option for both, whole server, and rooms.
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Klaus H. Wolf" <wolf at bluehands.de>
> > To: <standards-jig at jabber.org>
> > Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 6:16 PM
> > Subject: RE: [standards-jig] JEP-0045 Suggestions
> >
> >
> > > No, banning from a channel is not enough.
> > >
> > > In our application users can walk many rooms on the same chatserver in
a
> > > short time. They do not enter the room id by hand. They just click and
> > > switch the room if they are banned in one. Rooms are dynamically
> > created.
> > So
> > > it must be possible to ban for a (large) set of rooms or even a
server.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > --
> > > Dr. Klaus H. Wolf
> > > bluehands GmbH & Co.mmunication KG
> > > http://www.bluehands.de/people/hw
> > > +49 (0721) 16108 75
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: standards-jig-admin at jabber.org
> > > > [mailto:standards-jig-admin at jabber.org]On Behalf Of chicago5 at gmx.de
> > > > Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 7:02 PM
> > > > To: standards-jig at jabber.org
> > > > Subject: RE: [standards-jig] JEP-0045 Suggestions
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > > If somebody wants to make trouble it's not very efficient just to
> > ban
> > > > > him/her by nick in this single room. You maybe have to ban the jid
> > on
> > > > > the entire conference server. You might say the conference
component
> > > > > knows the mapping between nick and jid and that is enough. To
> > support
> > > > > reasonable administration features you have to work with jids at
the
> > > > > client side user interface. But Richard is right. To preserve the
> > > > > privacy we must not reveal the jid to every user in the chat room
> > but
> > to
> > > > > some privileged administrators. This is the point where user roles
> > and
> > > > > capabilities are getting important.
> > > >
> > > > Banning a jid from a server is definitely too much. Banning a jid
from
> > a
> > > > channel is enough.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Ulrich Staudinger http://www.die-horde.de http://www.igpp.de
> > > > Product Manager @ http://complat.sourceforge.net/jnlp/
> > > > JID: uls at jabber.org
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