[standards-jig] UPDATED: Multi-User Chat (JEP 45, v. 0.3)

Klaus H. Wolf wolf at bluehands.de
Wed Sep 18 18:31:23 UTC 2002


> Nevertheless it may be a hack....)

It is...  :-)
Seriously: it would result in lots of code snippets like:
  if (name != "admin") {
    // do
  }

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: standards-jig-admin at jabber.org
> [mailto:standards-jig-admin at jabber.org]On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre
> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 5:40 PM
> To: standards-jig at jabber.org
> Subject: Re: [standards-jig] UPDATED: Multi-User Chat (JEP 45, v. 0.3)
>
>
> The only reason I thought it might be nice to send these requests to
> room at service/admin is so that (with this simple protocol) the service does
> not need to fish through message bodies to find '/kick' and so on. If the
> client can flag those (as many clients now do for '/nick') and send them
> to a special reserved resource of room at service, then we can have a fair
> amount of simplicity without formulating new namespaces. However, it could
> be that this is just a protocol hack and it would be better to create a
> special-purpose namespace for this (as I had in version 0.2).
>
> (On a side note, I would disagree that room at service/admin must be
> construed as a participant in the room. Rather, it's just some resource
> associated with the room. The jdev room is populated by a number of bots,
> including ChatBot -- which is more of an information resource than a
> participant. Participants are addressed as room at service/nick but that
> doesn't mean room at service/resource is reserved only for participants.
> Nevertheless it may be a hack....)
>
> Peter
>
> --
> Peter Saint-Andre
> Jabber Software Foundation
> http://www.jabber.org/people/stpeter.html
>
> On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Richard Dobson wrote:
>
> > Hi Peter,
> >
> > I dont know if this has already been discussed but the kicks
> band and whois
> > requests are being sent to room at server/admin wouldnt it make
> more sence to
> > just send it to room at server because sending it to /admin
> suggests you are
> > sending it to a user rather than the room, the server can
> easily filter it
> > out as a command and not send it to the participants. Other
> than that the
> > jep looks good, although something I would like to see is the only thing
> > that is missing from this that was in the generic conferencing
> protocol and
> > that is somehow defining a list of nicks to try and if not generate one.
> > Maybe it needs to be done as an extra step if wanted before
> sending presence
> > to a room to discover an unused or generate one for you which
> you can then
> > use to send to the room, maybe an iq get result sequence or something.
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Peter Saint-Andre" <stpeter at jabber.org>
> > To: <standards-jig at jabber.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 5:10 AM
> > Subject: [standards-jig] UPDATED: Multi-User Chat (JEP 45, v. 0.3)
> >
> >
> > > FYI, I have updated JEP #45 on Multi-User Chat. Version 0.3 contains
> > > changes large and small from version 0.2, including a total
> re-write of
> > > the admin use cases (resulting from a conversation I had with
> pgmillard).
> > > Many details remain to be addressed, including room
> moderation. I shall
> > > endeavor to release a further update by mid-day Thursday or
> so (that will
> > > probably be version 0.3.1 or whatever).
> > >
> > > So have at it!
> > >
> > > http://www.jabber.org/jeps/jep-0045.html
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > --
> > > Peter Saint-Andre
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