[standards-jig] NEW: Message Delivery Semantics (JEP-0079)

Tijl Houtbeckers thoutbeckers at splendo.com
Thu Apr 17 00:29:03 UTC 2003


"Matthew A. Miller" <linuxwolf at outer-planes.no-ip.com> wrote on 16-4-
2003 17:53:57: 
>
>On Tue, 2003-04-15 at 18:48, Tijl Houtbeckers wrote:
>> Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter at jabber.org> wrote on 16-4-2003 0:17:14:
>> >
>> >Matthew Miller has submitted a JEP for message delivery semantics. 
>> >This JEP addresses the recent discussions on this list. You can 
>> >find it here: 
>> >
>> >http://www.jabber.org/jeps/jep-0079.html
>> 
>> 
>> To avoid confusion you could mention at point 7.1.2 wether that is 
>> 00:00:00 at the beginning or the end of the day. 
>
>Actually, as I recall [1], ISO-8601 makes such a distinction already:
>
>00:00:00 is the beginning of the day.
>24:00:00 is the end of the day.
>
>Whether the JEP should be changed to refer to the end of the day rather
>than the beginning of the day, I'll leave out there for debate (-:

Not argueing we do that. Just that we put that in the JEP to avoid 
confusing. Not so much break any standards :) 
>
>> As for point 7.1.3: just pre-fixes and no post-fixes?
>
>
>[1] The only immediate reference to this I found was a note by Japanese
>translators at http://www.lise.jp/datetime.html#time, and I did not 
>find any dissenting references.

"Matthew A. Miller" <linuxwolf at outer-planes.no-ip.com> wrote on 16-4-
2003 17:53:33: 
>
>If we are to consider prefixes and suffixes (which, now thinking on it,
>should be done), we need to consider in what "direction".  The current
>"match-resource" value flags make this distinction, and I still feel it
>is an important one.  If we are to take into consideration the concepts
>of prefix/suffix, I would see a total of five values:
>
>*  "prefix-subset" would be the existing "subset" definition.
>*  "prefix-superset" would be the existing "superset" definition.
>*  "suffix-subset" would be "Destination resource exactly matches, or 
>is a suffix of the specified resource" (e.g. "home/laptop" matches 
>"laptop" and "top", but not "home/desktop" or "work/laptop").
>*  "suffix-superset" would be "Destination resource exactly matches, or
>is suffixed by the specified resource" (e.g. "laptop" matches
>"home/laptop" and "work/laptop", but not "home/desktop" or
>"work/desktop").
>*  "exact" would remain as-is.

No substring-subset and substring-superset?

>
>I am open other suggestions, though.[1]
>
>[1] I had deliberately left out "regex", as I felt this would overly
>complicate and burden implementations.

I might be the one whining about this, but if it's up to me regex stays 
out. 

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Tijl Houtbeckers
Software Engineer @ Splendo
The Netherlands




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