[standards-jig] Re: [Foundation] Motion for Last Call - Chat State Notifications (JEP-0085)

Julian Missig julian at jabber.org
Thu Dec 4 04:09:37 UTC 2003

Ok, I understand that I suck at writing up JEPs when I should and that 
I said I would a long time ago, but I still feel that the Chat State 
JEP is more complicated than we really need... I'm also rather 
disappointed that we have a standard which almost everyone is using 
(jabber:x:event) that we're deprecating just as people are finishing up 
implementing it. I do think that we could get the things we need by 
modifying jabber:x:event rather than creating a whole new standard and 
abandoning jabber:x:event.


On 3 Dec, 2003, at 12:20, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 02:16:15PM +1100, Robert Norris wrote:
>> I move that a Last Call be issued for JEP-0085, Chat State
>> Notifications. Seconds?
> Just a note (I'm one of the JEP authors, so I won't second it):
> As discussed in yesterday's Council meeting, several Council members
> have mixed feelings about moving forward with this JEP and would like 
> to
> receive feedback from client developers about this, since it is 
> intended
> to replace jabber:x:event (JEP-0022). However, the Council figured that
> the only way to close the circle here would be to hold a Last Call on
> JEP-0085 so that we can have a definitive discussion about this on the
> Standards-JIG list.
> So if you want to have the discussion and reach consensus on whether we
> will move forward to chat state notifications (JEP-0085) or use the
> message events protocol (JEP-0022) forever, please second the motion.
> Let's get this figured out and move on.
> Peter
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