[standards-jig] On the Subject of Avatars

J8nk junk at u812.net
Mon Jul 21 20:15:53 UTC 2003

> <evanp> Hey, Bob, I just changed my avatar. Check it out!
> <bobw> [click]
> <bobw> Cool!
> <evanp> Thanks!

Good one! hehe.. ;-P

Evan Prodromou wrote:

>>>>>>"BW" == Bob Wyman <bob at wyman.us> writes:
>    BW> The use of PubSub overcomes what would, for many people, be a
>    BW> major objection to the approach that you propose. That is:
>First off, I posit that this is _not_ actually a major objection from
>the point of view of users. From the point of view of the computer
>scientist developing the toaster, sure, there's a problem with not
>having pushed avatars. There's also a problem with not having VRML
>sound-enhanced 3D movie avatars, or shared avatar banks, or
>multigeneration version control of avatar object patterns in
>namespaced pipelined collection chunks.
>Dead Simple Avatars are just that: dead simple. They're the 80%
>solution, and they do pretty much what most people want out of
>avatars: associate an image with a JID.
>    BW> Your approach requires polling of the vCard from time to time
>    BW> to determine whether or not the avatar has changed.
>The DSA JEP I proposed has Implementation Notes that specifically
>recommend _against_ polling. The user should be able to explicitly
>request an update, say by clicking on the screen display of the
>avatar. Simple and intuitive.
>        <evanp> Hey, Bob, I just changed my avatar. Check it out!
>        <bobw> [click]
>        <bobw> Cool!
>        <evanp> Thanks!
>My experience with avatars in other IM systems is that they are in
>fact _rarely_ changed. And my experience with questions about avatars
>on this list is that people want a working solution now, not a year
>from now. DSAs can be implemented today, by anyone.
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