[standards-jig] very large MUC rooms

David Sutton jabber at dsutton.legend.uk.com
Tue Sep 16 19:12:25 UTC 2003


Hi Peter,

  Technically, it isn't difficult, in fact its just adding another check into the presence sending 
handler. The way this would fit into MUC is to add an option so that presence for 'visitors' is not 
broadcasted to anyone except the visitor itself. 

Regards,

  David

On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 12:52:44PM -0500, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> Hi David,
> 
> My feeling is that including a configuration option that does not
> broadcast presence information is not that complex, but of course I'm
> just a protocol geek. :) Though I see your point, it sounds like what
> people want is the ability to broadcast presence only for a certain
> class of users (members or perhaps those with voice), which is a little
> more complicated.
> 
> But I don't think the idea of bots or listening rooms is a better way to
> address this issue.
> 
> Peter
> 
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 05:17:27AM -0500, David Sutton wrote:
> > Hmm, my first instincts about this proposal are that I'm not really
> > seeing the need for such as system beyond the example you give, and can
> > think of another (better?) way of handling such a setup - What I would
> > do is have a bot in the room which would transmit the contents of the
> > room onto the "observers". 
> > 
> > One of my worries is that the spec, as it stands, is a simple yet
> > effective way of handling conferencing - If it was decided that this was
> > wanted, i would suggest it needs to be a part of a seperate JEP, such as
> > a 'MU-C Services' JEP (as suggested during the council voting on MU-C in
> > the first place)
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> >   David
> > 
> > On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 13:02, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> > > Someone poked me offlist about the existence of very large rooms in MUC
> > > (i.e., rooms with hundreds or thousands of members). The administrators
> > > of such rooms may not want the room to broadcast presence for every room
> > > occupant, only for occupants above a certain level, for people who are
> > > being interviewed while the masses listen in, etc. So I think it would
> > > be appropriate to change the JEP so that a room is not required to
> > > broadcast presence for all occupants -- rather, presence should be 
> > > broadasted, but may not be depending on room configuration.
> > > 
> > > Thoughts? Are there any other implications of having extremely large
> > > rooms?
> > > 
> > > Peter
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