[standards-jig] thoughts on a new idle protocol

Dudley Carr dudley at cs.stanford.edu
Sun Jan 18 21:37:53 UTC 2004

Justin Karneges wrote:

> On Sunday 18 January 2004 12:48 pm, Dudley Carr wrote:
>>The PubSub solution is a fine one, but it seems to me that you can already
>>figure out all the idle information from received presence stanzas.
>>From what I can tell, it is only possible to determine how long it has been 
> since the user has last changed status.  Since there is no standard value for 
> "auto-away" timers, knowing when someone has changed to auto-status does not 
> give you an accurate idle time value.  In other words, the true idle time 
> would be [time of last status] + [user's auto-status timer value].
> Granted, a person's auto-status timer will likely have a reasonable value, so 
> the longer they are away (or 'idle'), the less that value actually matters 
> (what is 10 minutes on a person gone for 2 hours?).

This is very true. This solution isn't accurate if the auto-idle feature has a 
long time delay before kicking in.

A possible work-around would be for the client to add the jabber:x:delay to the 
presence packet when auto-idle sends the away presence packet. This is 
allowable, isn't it?

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