[Standards-JIG] SIP functionality and XMPP

Damon Lanphear damonlan at real.com
Tue Mar 16 21:24:29 UTC 2004

I think it would be worth adding an "existing protocols" section to:


that discusses how the use cases may be implemented using SIP/RTSP/SDP
in order to highlight what may be reused, and what deficiencies are

On Tue, 2004-03-16 at 11:33, Ulrich Staudinger wrote:
> Damon Lanphear wrote:
> >I'm just getting caught up on the list discussion of IETF multimedia
> >protocol convergence under XMPP.  It seems that there is some momentum
> >to develop an umbrella specification that encapsulates the IETF MMUSIC
> >suite in a "jabber friendly" protocol framework.  Frankly, I don't
> >totally grok the scope of the current approach.  Is it that all
> >functionality of SIP will be inherited by SIP-XML?
> >
> >If that is the case, then I think this is mistake.  Its already been
> >mentioned on the list that SIP has industry acceptance and increasingly
> >broad deployment.  More importantly, is that SIP is sufficiently generic
> >to create a complex feature set that is difficult to represent cleanly,
> >and implement correctly.  In other words, a LOT of work of has gone into
> >SIP.  In this respect, re-inventing the wheel to make SIP concepts play
> >nice in jabberland is falsely attractive.
> >
> >I propose that we think first about what sort of high level functional
> >semantics we want to support.  Then we define a mapping for those
> >semantics to the *existing* protocol suite. Finally we develop an
> >"jabber-friendly" protocol spec that articulates this mapping.  The
> >envisioned deployment is that existing RTSP/SIP/SDP implementations can
> >be extended to listen for and translate XMPP-media protocol messages to
> >RTSP/SIP requests and calls.
> >  
> >
> >A model just like this was employed by IETF's MEGACO. MEGACO basically
> >provides a translation service for driving media gateways on the
> >boundary between VoIP and conventional telephony networks. Of course,
> >MEGACO is not of use to us other than as a protocol example of how
> >existing communications technologies can be bridged to emerging ones.
> >
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> To support this discussion i have already started a jep which hopefully 
> just needs some fleshing out with xmpp commands.
> The url is http://avtaskforce.jabberstudio.org/jep01xx.html
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