[Standards-JIG] Re: JEP-0071 XHTML-IM lack of scope

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at jabber.org
Wed Sep 8 15:28:12 UTC 2004


In article <2BE7012E-FC72-11D8-8327-000A958F753E at ceruleanstudios.com>,
 Rachel Blackman <rcb at ceruleanstudios.com> wrote:
 
> But therein lies the problem.  If, say, I want to put the name of a 
> book in italics, I can't do, say:
> 
> <i>Lord of Snow and Shadows</i> by Sarah Ash

I think we have <cite> for this, no?

> I guess if you want to get into this the question is whether XHTML-IM 
> is intended to convey document /rendering/ markup (i.e., bold, italic, 
> underline, font size and color) or whether it's intended to convey 
> document /structure/ markup (i.e. 'strong emphasis,' 'emphasis,' and so 
> on).  I've been going into this with the assumption that XHTML-IM is 
> intended to convey the former, and uses <strong/> and <em/> only as a 
> convenience for those who are embedding existing HTML formatting 
> controls for displaying messages, since those pretty much always turn 
> out as bold and italic under most HTML renderers.

This seems to be an accurate description. I prefer your terms 
"rendering" and "structure" to my term "formatting" and will try to 
update the JEP accordingly when I have time (which won't be today).

Peter




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