[Standards-JIG] privacy2 anti-SPIM proto-JEP
Bart van Bragt
jabber at vanbragt.com
Mon Aug 29 19:55:08 UTC 2005
Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> I just chatted with Ian Paterson about it over IM (what a concept!) and
> now that he has walked me through the reasoning, I think we probably do
> need something like his "challenge" action for privacy lists.
About this challenge system; what if I have a very useful service of
XMPP that happens to be automated (i.e. a legitimate bot). Asking users
to manually add my bot to their privacy (white)list doesn't sound very
appealing to me.
There is quite a bit of info about SPIM on
www.instantmessagingplanet.com Most of it is corporate blabla but maybe
we could ask companies like Akonix, FaceTime and IM Logic if they have
idea's as to how we can make the XMPP world a better place. Not sure if
they want to help in putting them out of business though :)
Doesn't anyone here have connections with some of the (email) spam
fighters out there? They should know how the average spammer thinks and
what they are capable of (and if raising the costs of sending spam a bit
will really stop them or slow them down).
One big advantage that we have is that we don't have a homogeneous
network with 95% of the users using the same client. Lots of SPIM on the
other networks is sent by worms that send their spam (+worm) to everyone
in your contactlist (and that appears to come from one of your buddies).
The chances of a worm propagating really quickly are smaller on the
> It's no fun being in the middle of an arms race. <sigh/>
I know. Check this out:
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