[Standards-JIG] privacy2 anti-SPIM proto-JEP

Tomasz Sterna tomasz.sterna at gmail.com
Mon Aug 29 20:37:52 UTC 2005

2005/8/29, Bart van Bragt <jabber at vanbragt.com>:
> Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> About this challenge system; what if I have a very useful service of
> XMPP that happens to be automated (i.e. a legitimate bot). Asking users
> to manually add my bot to their privacy (white)list doesn't sound very
> appealing to me.

As soon as they message your bot for help (and add it to corespondents
list) or add it to roster, they poke a hole in the spimfilter and
allow messages from your bot. :-)

> Doesn't anyone here have connections with some of the (email) spam
> fighters out there?

Experience form the email world could be misleading.
They have the SMTP that they cannot change.
We have the opportunity to design a protocol as we like it. :-)

2005/8/29, Bart van Bragt <jabber at vanbragt.com>:
> Maybe there's an opportunity here to incorporate the e2e web of trust in
> this? Or use something like http://www.advogato.org/trust-metric.html
> (yes, there it is again. Has been discussed on these lists since 2000 :D).

Oh... If we begin the story of e2ee, web of trust or any other
advanced technique again, we won't even design the protocol in this
(Year 2000 was the last of the 20th century.)

KISS is what I like most in Ian's proposal.


More information about the Standards mailing list