[Standards-JIG] Re: privacy2 anti-SPIM proto-JEP

Nolan Eakins sneakin at semanticgap.com
Wed Aug 31 04:03:22 UTC 2005


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Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
| Tijl Houtbeckers wrote:
|
|> About 80%  of all SPIM I ever received was in either one of these
|> (subscription  request or profile information).
|
|
| Interesting. The only spim I've ever received was through the ICQ
| gateway back when I used it (circa 2000). So I don't have enough
| first-hand experience of the problem.
|
| Perhaps it would be valuable for us to study real-life spim before we
| start jumping to conclusions and designing protocols or changing RFCs.
| I've been assuming that spim would come in <message/> stanzas from
| people outside my roster (since that is what I experienced through the
| ICQ gateway), but your experience is quite different.

I concur that SPIM will most likely come in a profile. The only spim
that I've ever received was on Yahoo. Some "chick", and always the same
one but w/ a different screenname, would message me saying she's horny.
Obviously the first thought that comes to mind is to check the profile
to see if this is not a guy, and by then they got you.

In sum, spim may come in more than just a message you read. It could
actually be a person or bot that you interact with.

- - Nolan
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