[Standards-JIG] Re: Affiliation changes (JEP-0045)

JD Conley jd.conley at coversant.net
Fri Jan 14 20:52:23 UTC 2005

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> Subject: [Standards-JIG] Re: Affiliation changes (JEP-0045)
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> <8CDC3525190B624F8F740435C7B9A01D59C5 at heineken.winfessor.com>,
>  "JD Conley" <jconley at winfessor.com> wrote:
> > Do affiliation changes have to go "in order" as noted in the
> > Or can an Owner change an Admin to an Outcast in one fowl swoop?
> I think it's "fell swoop". ;-)

Oops.  Apparently I need a refresher on my Shakespeare.  It's been taken
over by American mispronunciation.  Darn phonics . . . ;)

> I've modified the rules to simplify them, per earlier discussion. So
> the spec says you can go straight from Owner to Outcast, do not pass
> do not pay $200.

Good. :)

> > On that note, what changes are allowed in the owner namespace vs.
> > admin namespace?  Changing an affiliation to member/none/outcast is
> > in the admin namespace in the samples, but the owner namespace
> > also lists those as valid values in the affiliation enumeration.  It
> > appears to me that the service must respond to all affiliation
> > (iq type set containing item(s)) in both the owner and admin
> > Is this correct?  Either way, it should be more clear in the spec.
> Well. Yes, the schemas do not restrict what you can send in the #admin
> vs. #owner namespace with regard to affiliation values. I see two
> options at this point:
> (1) Explicitly define which values of the 'affiliation' attribute are
> allowed in #admin vs. #owner.
> (2) Specify that all affiliation changes occur in queries qualified by
> the #admin namespace, reserving #owner for room creation,
> and destruction.
> #1 seems rather abitrary, so I would lean toward #2.

I like #2 as well.  Having it in both places is just confusing.


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