[Standards-JIG] Re: Council decision on "Simplified MUC" proposal

Nolan Eakins sneakin at semanticgap.com
Sun Mar 13 21:06:06 UTC 2005

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Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
| On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 02:07:58PM -0500, Nolan Eakins wrote:
| JEP-0045 has indeed been updated in my working copy and in CVS, and all
| the changes discussed on this list have been incorporated. The Council
| has not yet approved the changes, which it must do in accordance with
| Section 9 of JEP-0001 before the next revision is officially published:
| http://www.jabber.org/jeps/jep-0001.html#mods

I need to give that a better study since the mods process is new to me.

| http://www.saint-andre.com/jabber/jeps/jep-0045.html
| Feel free to review that and tell me if there are still errors or
| omissions.

The affiliation state chart is still inconsistent with the rest of the
JEP. The admin row needs to have all instances of "Admin or" struck out.
I'll look through the rest of it tonight or tomorrow and send my nit-picks.

| As a general process note, it is always best to fix an existing JEP
| rather than propose a new one. JEP-0045 is quite large and for that
| reason changes to it are performed at a measured pace. In addition, new
| functionality is best defined in a separate JEP if possible so that we
| don't make JEP-0045 even larger than it already is. IMHO this is part of
| what made some Council members uncomfortable with the MUC+ proposal.

Once I'm happy w/ the state of 0045 I suppose I can write up another JEP
to fill in any holes. Thinking about some of the things that I changed
in MUC+ might be fit for an informational JEP or for the implementation
notes of 0045. We'll see what I turn out.

- - Nolan
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