AW: [Standards-JIG] UPDATED: JEP-0154 (Profile Data Representation)

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at
Thu Nov 17 22:09:55 UTC 2005

Yes, I agree that community membership / association is good. That might 
include both online communities as well as IRL clubs, charities 
supported, and so on. I'll add that to the next version of the JEP.

Thanks for the input.


Heiner Wolf wrote:
> Hi,
> I would like to add a section which describes the membership in
> communities. The characteristics of memberships is that there is an
> external registry where user details are stored. users are identified by
> IDs. Other people, sometimes only users of the community, can get more
> information about the user. There are very different examples, like: 
> - a singles community 
> - a social network
> - an online game
> - a gravatar
> - a chat community
> - file sharing services (flickr)
> The point is that we do not specify these details of the community in
> the JEP. Details are application (community) dependent. The profile
> would contain multiple memberships. Each membership woudl have a few
> general fields, like
> - community name
> - maybe a community URL, because most communities have a web page
> - community symbol (icon) URL for display in the user interface / new
> vcard
> - user ID in the community
> - maybe a community category to be able to show in user interfaces only
> the memberships in singles communities, but not your gameer ID
> The community name would need a registry. 
> The user ID in the community could be as simple as a number like my
> Allakhazam profile number or my user name at Access to the
> community dependent user detail is then done via whatever protocol is
> appropriate. Obviously, this is out of band for Jabber. A client must
> support the "community-protocol" whatever this is. 
> I don't know yet, if the community ID must be structured. A game might
> need realm name and character name. But maybe we keep this a simple text
> field and combine multiple sub-fiels into a URL. 
> We could even cover instant messanger memberships with having to
> hardwire that there are only AIM, ICQ, Yahoo, MSN, Jabber. By the way:
> GoogleTalk is not in the list. A good example that we need some kind of
> extensibility without changing the JEP any time a new community becomes
> important. Replacing the IM addresses in JEP-0154 (Electronic Address
> Data Aspects) is not my goal, though. I need the generalized
> memberships. 
> _happy_coding()
> hw
> --
> Dr. Heiner Wolf
> bluehands GmbH & Co.mmunication KG
> +49 (0721) 16108 75
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>> -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: standards-jig-bounces at
>> [mailto:standards-jig-bounces at]Im Auftrag von JEP Editor
>> Gesendet: Samstag, 12. November 2005 00:35
>> An: standards-jig at
>> Betreff: [Standards-JIG] UPDATED: JEP-0154 (Profile Data 
>> Representation)
>> Version 0.3 of JEP-0154 (Profile Data Representation) has been 
>> released.
>> Abstract: This JEP specifies how to represent data about IM 
>> users and other XMPP entities in terms of the Data Forms protocol.
>> Changelog: Added postaladdress, fav_chatrooms, alt_contact, 
>> teams; added various security-related fields. (psa)
>> URL:

Peter Saint-Andre
Jabber Software Foundation
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