[Standards-JIG] Re: JEP-45 requires JEP-79?

Ralph Meijer jabber.org at ralphm.ik.nu
Wed Nov 23 20:49:29 UTC 2005

On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 02:29:33PM -0600, Gaston Dombiak wrote:
> Hey Nolan,
> Thanks for your reply.
> What about the "match-resource" condition? I think that we (the group
> chat service) don't want the server to send a room message to another
> user resource. I can see 2 possible scenarios where the "match-resource"
> and "drop" action might be useful.
> The first scenario is when a user is connected from 2 resources and only
> 1 has joined a room. And while there is some room activity the user
> loses his connection from the client that was present in the room.
> AFAIK, if we don't specify "match-resource" and "drop" in the messages
> to broadcast then the server might sent the room conversation to the
> remaining connected resource or if that resource has been disconnected
> too then the message might be stored offline.

I think this is really an edge case. Clients should ignore messages of
type 'groupchat' from rooms they didn't join.

> The other more unprobable scenario would be for clients that logged into
> a server but never sent an available presence but they decided to send a
> direct presence to join a room. AFAIK, clients that never sent an
> available presence to the server should not get messages from other
> clients or services since they are "unavailable". If this is correct
> then the server might decide to store offline broadcasted messages of
> the room.

I don't think current server implementations store messages of type
'groupchat'. JEP-0060 lists this case as SHOULD NOT.



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